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In a message dated 1/12/06 8:04:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, topnotch@nycap.rr.com writes: << COOL!!! So that's where they put the brain! The 65 trunk is much different, the brain spot is clearly more rounded and smaller... (and without a brain) Here's a late model (1971) FI notch http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/208169.jpg >> That was my thought too Keith, but I wasn't sure. It sure makes you wonder if the brain box needs to be cooled, since VW seemed to put them into the air stream. I'm not sure where they put it in a t-4, but on the wagons, I was told they mounted it under the rear seat. Bob 65 Notch S w/ Sunroof and IRS 71 Square, now a 2 seat Roadster, pics can be seen at; http://volksrods.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2977 and now awaiting a 2.0L t-4 engine transplant, finally have the needed parts : ) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~