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In a message dated 8/7/06 5:16:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, s13gram@gmail.com writes: << Also, the ignition cylinder had an issue with the previous owner, so he removed the starter wires and wired them into a momentary pushbutton switch. OK, now the problem. When the key is put in the run position, the car is fine, I hear the fuel pump going, and all lights and accessories get power. When the starter button is depressed, the car immediately loses ALL power. No fuses blow in the glovebox, but everything dies, and stays dead, until the battery is disconnected and reconnected. >> I had to go back a few days to see what year car you had. I'm still wondering where the PO got power to run the car or the starter. For the 70 and earlier cars, VW sent power from the VR to the light switch first, then to both the key swich and the fuse box. But wouldn't the key switch part seperate the running voltage (switched) from the battery supplied voltage? What I'm getting at is, if the PO cut the 2 red wires that would have ran the starter, how does the ignition switch get 12 volts over to the coil? Did the PO bring a wire over from the fuse box, or the battery to run the starter? I'm only asking, because I think I'm missing something. :? Apparently it ran like the PO set it up, as you were driving it, but it might help us help you on why it's not working now. Bob 65 Notch S w/ Sunroof and IRS (Krusty) 71 Square, now a 2 seat Roadster, pics can be seen at; http://volksrods.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2977 and now running the old Notch motor with D-jet FI . : ) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~