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In a message dated 4/23/06 2:04:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time, t3@matara.net writes: << Are 65 rear cylinders the same as later 4 stud ones? I heard there is a Superbug wheel cylinder that also fits. >> I think so. I know 66 to 73 uses a 22.20mm wheel cylinder, which is the same as a super beetle front. Bob 65 Notch S w/ Sunroof and IRS 71 Square, now a 2 seat Roadster, pics can be seen at; http://volksrods.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2977 and now has a running 2.0L t-4 with D-jet FI engine, just trying to finish up the details. : ) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~