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Was there a thin ring of rubber on the metal pipe end? There's supposed to be one there to help seal that joint. The big hose has a plastic lining and I guess the thin rubber band is to seal properly. www.hallvw.clara.co.uk/type3/T3pbo/T3pb2-02.htm part number 7. Dave. UK VW Type 3 & 4 Club http://www.hallvw.clara.co.uk/ ------ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Showker" <jshowker@comcast.net> To: <type3@vwtype3.org> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 4:31 AM Subject: Re: [T3] gas mileage fix > >This IS the overflow hose, isn't it; I can't imagine > > what else you could be clamping under there. > > Nah, not the overflow tube, the big tube/hose that hooks to the gas tank > from the filler . Probly 2" in diameter. It looks like the original high > quality VW clamp. The neoprene rubber, or whatever it is is just smaller, > either from being 36 years old, or from being clamped for 36 years. The > duct tape is only acting as a spacer, to enlarge the tube/hose so that the > clamp can clamp. should last as long as the hose. > > Jim Showker > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Adney" <jadney@vwtype3.org> > To: <type3@vwtype3.org> > Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 7:26 PM > Subject: Re: [T3] gas mileage fix > > > > On 20 Sep 2005 at 18:07, Jim Showker wrote: > > > > > Early in the summer we got my son's '69 with EFI working well. Got > great > > > gas mileage on the fwy. However mileage around town was only 17-18 mpg. > We > > > puzzled about this for a long time, til one day I was riding with him > and he > > > was taking a left hand corner pretty hard, and afterwards I smelled gas. > We > > > traced it down and gas was leaking out the rubber to metal boot > underneath > > > the fender. > > > > To this point, I was thinking that your story was pretty typical. It's > common > > to find that hose broken and leaking. > > > > > The rubber tube that comes out of the trunk is attached to the fill tube > > > with a clamp. The clamp was as tite as it would go and was not actually > > > clamping the tubing. Probly cause the dimensions of the rubber had > shrunk > > > over 36 years. I wrapped duct tape around the rubber tube where the > clamp > > > went, to make it bigger. Several wraps around and the clamp then > functioned > > > properly. > > > > I'd recommend that you take a moment sometime and just get the correct > size > > clamp. I don't know how long the duct tape will hold up, althought Red > Green > > would be proud of you. This IS the overflow hose, isn't it; I can't > imagine > > what else you could be clamping under there. > > > > > No more gas leak on left turns, now, 23-24 mpg in town. > > > > ;-) > > > > > This is especially interesting, cause the guy that sold us the car had > > > basically given up, after all kinds of weird fixes (like adding pots in > > > place of temp sensors), because he could not figure out why the mileage > was > > > bad. He figured the efi was messed up and running rich. > > > > Isn't it amazing how we ALL tend to jump to the worst possible > conclusions. > > > > > So if your gas mileage seems unexplainably bad, check it out. > > > > Yes, strong gas smells are always a problem. > > > > -- > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > >