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It's certainly there on the dual vac twin carb distrib in 1971. I've not checked it on the dual vac '72 FI yet. I can't see why it would have been abandoned at that stage though, and ISTR others have noticed it when timing - it's easy enough to clip the trigger onto no. 3 lead and see if the timing mark appears to be to the right of the reference mark. Dave. UK VW Type 3 & 4 Club http://www.hallvw.clara.co.uk/ ------ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russ Wolfe" <russw@classicvw.org> To: "Type3" <type3@vwtype3.org> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [T3] early engine pics > On Thu, 2005-05-12 at 12:57, Jim Adney wrote: > > On 12 May 2005 at 7:08, Jim Showker wrote: > > > > > Wouldn't that be about 90 degrees off? By the way Jim Adney, do the FI > > > distributors have the 2 degrees or so of retard built in for cyl 3 that are > > > on the regular motors? > > > > I don't think that any of the FI dists have the 2 deg retard for cyl 3. For > > that matter, I don't think that there were many dists at all which actually had > > this. > > > > Didn't Russ show some dist curves that mentioned the retard for some dist > > versions? > > The list I have shows it for the early distributors, but it continued up > thru everything air cooled that I have worked with. I have verified it > with a timing light, and the old VW diagnostic systems checked it. > I think even Dave Hall checked his to verify it. > > -- > Russ Wolfe > '71 FB AT > '66 FB MT > '64 T34 (not running) > '65 T1 (not running) > '05 KIA Sorento SUV > russw@classicvw.org > http://www.classicvw.org > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > >