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In a message dated 3/21/05 9:06:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, russw@classicvw.org writes: << Yes, and my wife knows where to look for her scissors if they come up missing. I have a 1 oz. ballpeen hammer that gets used a lot for making gaskets too. >> Yeah, both of these methods are "old school", but still work very well. I also have one of those small ballpeen hammers, and a small roll of gasket material. You just never know when you might need it someday. Bob 65 Notch S w/ Sunroof 71 Square, now a 2 seat Roadster, pics can be seen at; http://volksrods.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2977 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~