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Hey All.......good news.....Elwood is alive!!! Boy, what a feeling to get this square running after sitting for at least 11 years!!!......the joy of hearing it start and run is pretty cool.....and I got there with all your help..... Many, Many thanx to you all who have helped! As you last heard, I did not have a ground source going to the fuel pump relay from the brain.....thanx to Jim and Russ, I did all the required checks and everything seemed to be in good shape....except I still couldn't get that darn ground source from the brain.....so I flipped the plastic connector around (on the relay) so as to still provide the connection of the blue wire, but not the ground from the brain.....then I provided a ground so as to run the pump.......then I cranked it over and it started to fire up.....1, 2, 3, then 4 cylinders firing!!....yee haaw!......I let it warm up enough to get the ya-ya's out.....shut it down......disconnected my ground to the relay, flipped the plug back and low and behold....everything is working as it's suppoda!!!....When I turn the key, I now have the relay fire for a second, then stop...then fire again when cranking and continue to run the pump when running! I guess it needed to just get those ya-ya's out!!!........I know, time will tell if it's functioning for good as it's supposed to, but what a feeling to have it running now!.........It seems to be running very rich, but I also did not have time yet to set the timing....and I know for a '72 I have to look up in Bentley as to how to time these motors......... I still have that extra wire that I don't know where it belongs....it's a white wire coming from the sheathing that carry's the single wire to the head temp sensor and the 3 wires that go to the distributor triggers....this wire is not connected to anything right now, but it has to have a reason for being there.....it seems like it maybe went to a ground spade close to where it ends, but I don't know....Is there anyone with a '72 that can look and see where this wire belongs?? Again, many thanx for your help all!!! Dave Pallo Hers: '72 Square (in process) His: '96 Impala SS....Sunny Sunday's only ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~