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Re: type3-d Digest V2005 #484


unsubsribe me please.

--- type3-d-request@vwtype3.org wrote:

> 
> type3-d Digest				Volume 2005 : Issue 484
> 
> Today's Topics:
>   Re: [T3] Jacking Car                  [ Timothy
> Kender <timothy_kender@cox. ]
>   Re: [T3] Jacking Car                  [ Steven
> Ayres <comwest@att.net> ]
>   Re: [T3] Jacking Car                  [ Toby
> Erkson <air_cooled_nut@pobox.c ]
>   Re: [T3] Squares Next motor           [ "Keith
> Park" <topnotch@nycap.rr.com ]
>   Re: [T3] Squares Next motor           [ "Keith
> Park" <topnotch@nycap.rr.com ]
>   Re: [T3] Gettin started on the Crate  [ "Keith
> Park" <topnotch@nycap.rr.com ]
>   Re: [T3] Gettin started on the Crate  [ Russ Wolfe
> <russw@classicvw.org> ]
>   Re: [T3] I'm baack...with my Notch    [ Jim Adney
> <jadney@vwtype3.org> ]
>   Re: [T3] Jacking Car                  [ Jim Adney
> <jadney@vwtype3.org> ]
>   Re: [T3] Hubcap Removal               [ Jim Adney
> <jadney@vwtype3.org> ]
>   RE: [T3] paint ding at the shop and   [ Jim Adney
> <jadney@vwtype3.org> ]
>   Re: [T3] Gettin started on the Crate  [ Jim Adney
> <jadney@vwtype3.org> ]
>   Re: [T3] Jacking Car                  [ Jim Adney
> <jadney@vwtype3.org> ]
> > Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 14:05:54 -0700
> From: Timothy Kender <timothy_kender@cox.net>
> To: type3@vwtype3.org
> Subject: Re: [T3] Jacking Car
> 
> Better question: how does one jack the front end up?
> There are no holes 
> up front!
> 
> On Sat, 2 Jul 2005 10:15 am, Ben Mungkornpanich
> wrote:
> > Were is a good spot to jack the back of the car
> up?  I want to get both 
> > rear wheels up and do their brakes together. 
> >
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> Timothy in Phoenix,
> 1973 Fasty "Sport"
> 1977 Highroof "Little Buddha"
> > Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 14:32:45 -0700
> From: Steven Ayres <comwest@att.net>
> To: T3 List <type3@vwtype3.org>
> Subject: Re: [T3] Jacking Car
> 
> TimothyK=> how does one jack the front end up?
> 
> Place the floor jack under the center of the front
> beam. Depending on 
> which job you're doing, place jackstands at the ends
> of the beam (best) 
> or under the wheel-well corners of the the pan,
> where you'll find a 
> couple of bolt heads indicating the hardened area.
> 
> Steven Ayres, Prescott AZ
> '66 Big Ghia
> 
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> > Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 15:06:03 -0700
> From: Toby Erkson <air_cooled_nut@pobox.com>
> To: T3 List <type3@vwtype3.org>
> Subject: Re: [T3] Jacking Car
> 
> For any car, where the suspension meets the body is
> a good location for 
> jacking.  Personally, I don't like jacking the pan
> and will use the 
> stock jack location for lifting the sides of the
> car.
> 
>   Toby Erkson  --  http://www.icbm.org/
>   '72 VW Squareback Darksider, 5-speed, 2.0L, rag
> top
> 
> Pending: '72 VW Squareback Lightsider, automatic,
> FI, sunroof, gas heater
> 
>   '95 VW Jetta ~ SCCA Solo 2 EP #3; '73 Porsche 914;
> '81 Honda Gold Wing
>   Portland, Oregon
> 
> 
> 
> Steven Ayres wrote:
> 
> > ...Depending on which job you're doing, place
> jackstands at the ends 
> > of the beam (best) or under the wheel-well corners
> of the the pan, 
> > where you'll find a couple of bolt heads
> indicating the hardened area.
> 
>
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> > Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 21:22:23 -0400
> From: "Keith Park" <topnotch@nycap.rr.com>
> To: <type3@vwtype3.org>
> Subject: Re: [T3] Squares Next motor
> 
> I agree, but I cant begin to afford Raby, although I
> may buy my parts from
> him.  I need to look Shad's site over again.  I
> really want to keep the 2L
> stock anyway for reliability and affordability.
> 
> KEith
> 
> 
> 
> > There's an old saying that was taught to me when I
> first decided to get
> back
> > into VW's. Do it right and only cry once. You went
> with Berg before, now
> go
> > with Jake Raby
> <http://www.aircooledtechnology.com/Home_Page.htm>
> for a
> > complete build, or with LN Engineering (somtimes
> listee Shad Laws) for
> parts
> > <http://lnengineering.com/>
> >
> > Neil
> >
> 
> 
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> > Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 21:25:41 -0400
> From: "Keith Park" <topnotch@nycap.rr.com>
> To: <type3@vwtype3.org>
> Subject: Re: [T3] Squares Next motor
> 
> I see... maybe by next summer he will have found a
> solution.  I guess the
> stock of OEM ones has been depleated.
> 
> Keith
> 
> > IIRC, the source of the problem in the T4 world is
> the lifters, and it's
> been going
> > on since Johnson went under a few years back --
> they were the ones who
> > actually *made* most of the lifters on the market
> regardless of whose name
> was
> > on the box.
> >
> > I know Raby's been throwing a bunch of R&D time &
> money at the lifter
> issue,
> > built a testing fixture, has been experimenting
> with coatings, different
> lifter
> > blanks .. didn't know he'd found an actual
> solution to the problem.
> Things've
> > been awful quiet from him lately, but he's got a
> lawsuit going on (relax,
> he's
> > on the "giving" end of the suit!) which has a lot
> to do with it.
> >
> >
>
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> >
> > Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 21:43:46 -0400
> From: "Keith Park" <topnotch@nycap.rr.com>
> To: <type3@vwtype3.org>
> Subject: Re: [T3] Gettin started on the Crate!
> 
> Hi Russ,
> 
> Its a steel gasketed one.  I pulled the Clutch and
> it was shot... which goes
> along with it being a delivery vehicle but the
> flywheel is also bit
> compromised from the rivits so between that and the
> bad teeth I think I need
> to put another flywheel on it.
> You dont have a gasketed 6V flywheel do you?
> 
> 
> Keith
> 
> 
> > > I may need a 6V '65 flywheel!
> > >
> > Is it an o'ring flywheel, or steel gasket??
> > The starter can spin when not completely into the
> flywheel. I have seen
> > a lot of stop and start drivers with the flywheel
> chewed. The bendix has
> > is spring loaded, and can spin when not completely
> engaged. Check the
> > shaft on the starter to see if the Bendix is going
> all the way to the
> > stop. Or, is the stop not snapped onto its snap
> ring.
> >
> >
> > -- 
> > Russ Wolfe
> > '71 FB AT
> > '66 FB MT
> > '64 T34 (not running)
> > '65 T1 (not running)
> > '05 KIA Sorento SUV
> > russw@classicvw.org
> > http://www.classicvw.org
> >
> >
>
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> >
> > Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 21:37:44 -0500
> From: Russ Wolfe <russw@classicvw.org>
> To: Type3 <type3@vwtype3.org>
> Subject: Re: [T3] Gettin started on the Crate!
> 
> On Sat, 2005-07-02 at 20:43, Keith Park wrote:
> > Hi Russ,
> > 
> > Its a steel gasketed one.  I pulled the Clutch and
> it was shot... which goes
> > along with it being a delivery vehicle but the
> flywheel is also bit
> > compromised from the rivits so between that and
> the bad teeth I think I need
> > to put another flywheel on it.
> > You dont have a gasketed 6V flywheel do you?
> 
> I will have to look tomorrow. The light is not too
> good in the shop
> attic.
> It should be the same as a '63 thru '65 T-2 also. If
> I have one, that is
> what it will be off of.
> 
> -- 
> Russ Wolfe
> '71 FB AT
> '66 FB MT
> '64 T34 (not running)
> '65 T1 (not running)
> '05 KIA Sorento SUV
> russw@classicvw.org
> http://www.classicvw.org
> 
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> > Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 21:02:12 -0500
> From: Jim Adney <jadney@vwtype3.org>
> To: type3@vwtype3.org
> Subject: Re: [T3] I'm baack...with my Notch
> 
> On 2 Jul 2005 at 10:12, David Walters wrote:
> 
> > As for the generator problem that I was having, I
> troubleshot as per
> > the Haynes manual and showed that the generator
> wasn't putting out any
> > volatge, using the no-load unregulated volatge
> check from Haynes. Then
> > I tried a fault finding method off of the internet
> and it told me the
> > same thing *but* it suggested re-polarizing the
> generator. I did what
> > it said to do (and wasn't too confident while
> doing it either) and
> > darned, if it didn't work. 
> 
> I have a charging system FAQ that I'll be glad to
> send out to anyone who needs 
> it. I don't recommend repolarizing just because the
> chances of destroying 
> something are much greater than the chances of
> fixing something. However, it is 
> true that sometimes it's necessary.
> 
> The only times that I've ever seen polarizing to be
> necessary was when the 
> battery had been installed backwards, or when the
> generator had been completely 
> torn down and not repolarized by the rebuilder.
> Personally, I don't think the 
> latter should ever happen, just because it would
> mean that the rebuilder never 
> tested the generator after doing his work.
> 
> Time alone is never a reason to repolarize. These
> things can sit on the shelf 
> for decades with no problems.
> 
> -- 
> *******************************
> Jim Adney, jadney@vwtype3.org
> Madison, Wisconsin, USA
> *******************************
> 
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> > Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 21:02:13 -0500
> From: Jim Adney <jadney@vwtype3.org>
> To: type3@vwtype3.org
> Subject: Re: [T3] Jacking Car
> 
> On 2 Jul 2005 at 11:48, Ben Mungkornpanich wrote:
> 
> > Were is a good spot to jack the back of the car
> up?  I want to get both rear 
> > wheels up and do their brakes together. 
> 
> Don't jack under anything that just looks like part
> of the body. You're looking 
> for suspension members which are made of sturdier
> stuff. Anywhere on the rear 
> subframe is good.
> 
> Likewise, anywhere under the front axle beam is
> good.
> 
> Sorry, Steve, but I'm gonna warn people not to use
> your suggestions. Jacking 
> under the tranny will work MOST of the time, but I'm
> afraid that sometime 
> someone will suffer that one in 1000 chance and
> destroy something expensive. 
> Jacking under the the engine or the tranny risks
> damage not only to the engine 
> or the transmission, but also to the engine and
> transmission mounts.
> 
> I jack under the ends of the subframe where the
> torsion bars are, or go to the 
> center of the subframe with a short board so I can
> jack the whole rear end at 
> the same time.
> 
> As far as the front goes, I'd just stick with either
> the front axle beam or the 
> front frame horns that grab the axle. Those outboard
> bolts that Steve mentioned 
> really aren't in any particularly stout metal. 
> 
> The OE jack points are fine when the car is new and
> the body is perfect, AND if 
> the ground is good so there's no chance of the car
> rolling forward or back. 
> Otherwise, they are just in sheet metal, and are
> easily damaged. I would use 
> them only as a last resort.
> 
> -- 
> *******************************
> Jim Adney, jadney@vwtype3.org
> Madison, Wisconsin, USA
> *******************************
> 
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> > Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 21:02:12 -0500
> From: Jim Adney <jadney@vwtype3.org>
> To: type3@vwtype3.org
> Subject: Re: [T3] Hubcap Removal
> 
> On 2 Jul 2005 at 12:20, Ben Mungkornpanich wrote:
> 
> > Ok, Stupid question time.  I'm trying to do my
> brakes but I don't know how 
> > to remove the hubcaps.  I cant find that little U
> shapped piece of metal 
> > that old manual shows.  Is there a way to do it
> without that peice?
> 
> I think a lot of places sell reproductions of that
> little U-shaped part. It's 
> worth having one in your tool kit.
> 
> -- 
> *******************************
> Jim Adney, jadney@vwtype3.org
> Madison, Wisconsin, USA
> *******************************
> 
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> > Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 21:02:12 -0500
> From: Jim Adney <jadney@vwtype3.org>
> To: type3@vwtype3.org
> Subject: RE: [T3] paint ding at the shop and brakes
> 
> On 1 Jul 2005 at 21:30, Daniel Hoopes wrote:
> 
> > anyway, they're brazilian so I'd like to get some
> german ones if anyone
> > knows where I can get some.  any good old ones
> still out there worth working
> > with or should I just go new?  shop said they
> couldn't find anywhere
> > stocking the drums but that they would be $80 each
> if they did.
> 
> Yes, I have good used OG type 3 drums.
> 
> -- 
> *******************************
> Jim Adney, jadney@vwtype3.org
> Madison, Wisconsin, USA
> *******************************
> 
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> > Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 21:02:13 -0500
> From: Jim Adney <jadney@vwtype3.org>
> To: type3@vwtype3.org
> Subject: Re: [T3] Gettin started on the Crate!
> 
> On 2 Jul 2005 at 21:43, Keith Park wrote:
> 
> > Its a steel gasketed one.  I pulled the Clutch and
> it was shot...
> > which goes along with it being a delivery vehicle
> but the flywheel is
> > also bit compromised from the rivits so between
> that and the bad teeth
> > I think I need to put another flywheel on it. 
> 
> It's probably an easy part to find replacements for.
> 
> Some undercutting in the flywheel really won't cause
> any big problems, so if 
> the teeth are acceptable, it may be fine if you just
> get it smoothed out so 
> that there are no high spots.
> 
> -- 
> *******************************
> Jim Adney, jadney@vwtype3.org
> Madison, Wisconsin, USA
> *******************************
> 
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> > Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 21:02:12 -0500
> From: Jim Adney <jadney@vwtype3.org>
> To: type3@vwtype3.org
> Subject: Re: [T3] Jacking Car
> 
> On 2 Jul 2005 at 14:05, Timothy Kender wrote:
> 
> > Better question: how does one jack the front end
> up? There are no holes 
> > up front!
> 
> The factory jack points will jack up one side of the
> car, allowing access to 
> either wheel on that side. I recommend that you use
> a different jack, however, 
> and jack under a stronger place as mentioned
> elsewhere.
> 
> -- 
> *******************************
> Jim Adney, jadney@vwtype3.org
> Madison, Wisconsin, USA
> *******************************
> 
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