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On 14 Feb 2005 at 20:49, Keith Park wrote: > I believe the late cars didnt get them till 72, they were dealer installed > though and may have been avail earlier. They were available for the '70 models and thereafter. All dealer installed, not factory, not German made, not in the parts lists. The overriders for the earlier '61-9 cars WERE VW factory items. -- ******************************* Jim Adney, jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, Wisconsin, USA ******************************* ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~