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In a message dated 2/5/05 11:53:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, jadney@vwtype3.org writes: << The 68-72 bumper bars are all the same. The only difference in the 73 bar is that they left the top plate off of it. >> Thanks Jim, I knew you would know the answer. : ) Bob 65 Notch S w/ Sunroof 71 Square, now a 2 seat Roadster, pics can be seen at; http://volksrods.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2977 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~