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Most of the smaller engines nowadays are mostly aluminum alloys...they heat up a lot quicker than a large cast iron engine. Some have a provision for taking engine water for heat before the thermostat opens up, so there is heat pretty quickly. In my truck, however, the 1300 pound diesel takes a while to make heat...I'm hoping for better when I get the Type 3 back on the road! Merry Christmass All And Happy New Year...... Stephen J. Jackson Commissioning Engineer, Petron Industries, Inc. SJackson@petronworld.com 71 FB 02 F250 -----Original Message----- From: Dave Hall [mailto:dave@hallvw.clara.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 7:43 AM To: type3@vwtype3.org Subject: Re: [T3] Eberspacher heater questions > I think all my cars heaters have used electric elements in their > heaters, other than my air-cooled VWs. > -- > Michael Cecil Electric heating elements in a car heater? No - just electric motors blowing air over the water-filled matrix for w/c cars, and over hot metal due to exhaust heat in the aircooled ones.. Dave. UK VW Type 3 & 4 Club http://www.hallvw.clara.co.uk/ ------ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~