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In a message dated 12/3/05 9:56:08 AM Eastern Standard Time, type3weezer@comcast.net writes: << While we are on the subject, does anyone here run their PDSIT's without hooking up the choke? I switched over to 12 volt and I still have the 6 volt choke elements in but with a voltage drop on it. My car is not a daily driver and is tucked away in the garage till the snow and cold go away so warming up is not so much the issue. >> Yes, all of mine are inoperative. I backed the 3 screws off a little, and just rotated the choke elements until the butterfly is wide open. It makes it a little harder to start when the temp is around 20 degrees, but I don't normally do much driving in mine when it's that cold. ;^ ) I haven't had any trouble with them over the last 15+ years I've been driving my carbed type 3s this way either. I'm in Michigan, and we get a salt season here that requires you to take your nice cars off the road if you want to keep them nice. :O On one of my type 3s, I also have a set of Weber 34 ICT's, and they don't have any chokes at all, and they still work fine in very cold weather like that. :D I think Keith is about the only person here who really thinks carbs are the devil's invention, and he's really had trouble (until Brian adjusted them for him) with the chokes on his car. He had them set like you do domestic cars, which is really all wrong for our cars. I hope this helps. Bob 65 Notch S w/ Sunroof and IRS 71 Square, now a 2 seat Roadster, pics can be seen at; http://volksrods.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2977 and now awaiting a 2.0L t-4 engine transplant, finally have the needed parts : ) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~