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Finally got around to opening my last muffler install kit and took a pic and posted it to The Samba. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=201469 This is a German kit by HJS and includes that copper crush washer. Some of the major suppliers might still have some of these around. Michael __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~