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On Fri, 2004-09-17 at 17:18, joshua brooks wrote: > I see a-lot of modern cars with rusty looking exhausts. > Most modern exhausts are made with 409 stainless. It is easy to work, and form. But it does get an oxide patena. To give and example, my 1992 Dakota (160K miles) pickup still has the original header pipe, and Catlytic converter. The Muffer and tail pipe were just replace a couple weeks ago. They were from a major independant retailer that the Dodge dealer used under warranty because a baffle came loose in the muffler at about 10K miles. -- Russ Wolfe '71 FB AT '66 FB MT '64 T34 (not running) '65 T1 (not running) russw@classicvw.org http://www.classicvw.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~ Shameless link for search engines: http://listarchive.type3.org ~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~