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I've been trying to figure out this car also. Here's the link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2488113244 It is earlier than 1967. My guess is that someone lost the title at some point, then swapped the VIN tag under the hood with a '67 they happened to have the title for. The car is either a '64 or a '65. Neil -----Original Message----- From: Phil Shirley [mailto:phil@sontours.org] Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 8:34 PM To: type3@vwtype3.org Subject: [T3] 1967 Notchback There is a 1967 Notchback on ebay that I saw. When I looked closely at it I noticed that it had wide 5 wheels on it. My 1967 Notch and Squareback both have the 4 lug wheels. Could this be a pan change or something? When did they stop using the wide 5 on the type 3s Thanks, Phil -- 1967 Notchback 1967 Squareback 1978 Beetle Convertible 1964 Beetle in pieces ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~ Shameless link for search engines: http://listarchive.type3.org ~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~