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Daryl wrote: > took it out last nite. I also needed the length. Thanks I think its about 2200mm or 86 inches, something like that. I think I normally get 90 inches of it (don't quote me : ) ), and work the lie around the pedal assembly, instead of under it. If you get it a little longer, it gives you some room to make nice round bends, and some playing room for the rear "T" connection, as that ones the hardest to connect (reach). I hope this helps. Bob 65 Notch S w/ Sunroof 71 Square, now a 2 seat Roadster, pics can be seen at; http://volksrods.com Looking at making it a 4 seat convertible with a Rabbit top frame. : ) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~ Shameless link for search engines: http://listarchive.type3.org ~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~