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I had that problem a while back and it was the battery shorted out internally. take it out(the battery)and have the FLAPS perform a load test on it. Phil _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~