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Hi Jim and thanks and I havent greased yet as i have just obtained the car.........but im a maintence nut so it WILL BE DONE. Now what your describing to me seems to be the type of problem that im having......I initially thought that it was just bad wheep bearings and was going to replace them and so i took off the wheel and with the other side (wheel) on the ground and the left side (wheel) off i could grab the disk brake and move the wheel WAY up and down. The play was coming from the upper left torsion? bar that is attached to the stabilazer bar.......LOTS OF PLAY.........NOw im not sure about the right side as im having problems with it also. This car has been setting awhile and im sure this is why it stopped getting driven. And you mentioned that it might round out that whole which i see that it has done so a little.........When pushing it the left wheel wobbled terrible. I have been studying my bentleys all morning...........but didnt know what it might need....a new bar?? or torsion arm or completely replaced, the whole shabang. I havent gotten a chance to check the right side...I sort of scared to heehee That that sounds like my problem. I will try to tighten it and see what happens. And i know that i have to tell you all what is going on.......but its hard for me to explain problems using the correct terms and stuff..........as im still learing all about these things.....but I sure love em and I WILL learn...And i appreciate your patience too Thanks Rus --- Jim Adney <jadney@vwtype3.org> wrote: > On 12 Oct 2004 at 20:28, Rus wrote: > > > well im not exactly sure i thought that the front > wheel bearings was shot > > because the wheel was like it was loose.....it > moved around alot.....so i > > took off the wheels and its not the wheel > bearings.....it has to do with the > > steering itself.....like in the torsion arm and > steering box and > > such...........its really loose in that area..... > > You need to pin down the problem a bit more. > Probably the best way is to get a > second person who can shake things while you feel > around and find which parts > are moving. > > A common problem is that the upper trailing arms are > held in place by a torsion > bar, the anti-sway bar, that runs between them. The > attachement of this bar > sometimes gets loose on the left side. You can see > this if someone grabs the > top of one wheel and pulls it in and out while you > look or feel where the upper > trailing arm comes out of the axle beam. If there is > more than 1mm of motion > there, then this part needs attention. > > The up side is that this can be easy to fix, just > tighten the set screw and > lock nut. See your Bentley manual for details. > > The down side is that if this has been loose for a > long time, then it will have > enlarged the hole in the left trailing arm and it > will never stay tight until > you replace the trailing arm. > > BUT.... Don't just assume this is your problem, YOU > have to tell us where your > play is. Then we can help you better. > > BTW, there are 4 grease fittings on the front axle > beam. They each need grease > at least once a year. You're doing this, right? > ;-) > > -- > Jim Adney > jadney@vwtype3.org > Madison, WI 53711-3054 > USA > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | > mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo