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Ah, I thought I saw one with 5 lugs once. Reason I'm asking is I think I've found an early Fasty, but I don't think it's that real early, it has 4 lug wheels, but it's a cool light green color. >Ok- >lemme give this a shot... >All fastys were 4 lug- [only a few really rare 65 models are 5 lug] >Fastbacks did not have an "S" or "N" model. It was all standard. >The Fastback was the most expensive of all the type 3's and came with most of the more deluxe >items as standard issue. -- Phillip Bradfield founder: southern oregon vw club: http://www.sovw.com founder: das typ 3 projekt: http://www.dastyp3projekt.com (now in beta, take a look!) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~