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The advantages of working for a car company ;-) Just like the computer advantage I had when I worked for Intel :-) The DDB seal will go completely around the door opening, however, it does make closing the door more difficult and there's the same issue John had with the sill. I opted to trim mine so I stops at the sill. There is not an additional piece for the sill area in the DDB package. I do have my original seal still on the door; removing that would probably make closing the door a little easier but it's no big deal. Brooke doesn't have any on-door seal and his works just as well (his is the green car in the pictures). John's idea of trimming the sill plate would work for the DDB seals as well. The only issue I have is when I pass a 18-wheeler, I'll get a slight draft from the bottom of the door, along the sill area. Brooke says he doesn't feel it in his car. The likely reason I do is because of my rag top, thus my car isn't "air-tight" like a stock one would be. Toby Erkson air_cooled_nut@pobox.com '72 VW Squareback, '95 VW Jetta GL, '81 Gold Wing GL-1100, '73 Porsche 914 http://www.icbm.org/ > On Oct 31, 2004, at 7:27 PM, Dave Hall wrote: > ... > I did use Ford Focus door seals. They work quite nicely, but are a > little stiff for our doors. . . They also increase the door closing > efforts. I think with some time they will settle in and these two > minor issues will go away. They seal really well. With everything > closed and the windows up, the sunroof poofs up to release the pressure > when the door is closed. Doors close much easier when the sunroof is > open. > > It does take slightly more than one Focus seal to go completely around > the door opening. I had to add about an 8 inch piece from a third seal > to each side. Now I am going completely around the door opening, > including along the sill, with a single length of bulb seal (plus the > extra 8 inch piece). This is a bit different that the DDBs solution, I > think. The DDB stops at the edges of the aluminum sill plate and then > has a seal on the door for the bottom edge. Correct Martin? > > To go completely around I had to modify a set of sill plates, since the > pinch welt for the bulb seal would not fit over the sill plate. I > basically trimmed off the part of the sill plate that goes over the > flange on the body. I left the outside vertical flange so that it is > captured by the pinch welt of the bulb seal. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~