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I think the life of the automatic is directly dependent on how well it is maintained, I have one that I have been driving for over 100K and it is still doing well, I expect it to outlast me. I have a customer's that I have just finished rebuilding that got around 80K, but he ran it out of fluid about once a year for 10 years. They are tough little buggers.. Phil __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Domains ? Claim yours for only $14.70/year http://smallbusiness.promotions.yahoo.com/offer ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org