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Yes, this is what I meant. Toby keeps his engine so clean that digging dirt out of allen screws isnt a problem, and they do look better, but at 91K, my engine is getting a bit greased up now. Keith > Actually Keith and I are talking about the same thing, as the bolt / screw is > an M6 hex (with a 10 mm head). The M6 designation is the size of the screw > threads (machinist talk). Toby is using an M6 button head screw (uses an allen > wrench instead of a socket or a regular wrench). I hope this clears this up a > little. Sorry for the confusion. : ) > > Bob 65 Notch S w/ Sunroof ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org