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If anybody actually has a situation > where they've compared > two or more full sets of new, current tires on the > same car, I would > *love* to hear about it! > > -Greg > My last were XZXz over Tiger Paws (crap). My beetle has Jupiters, which are actually quite good. Once upon a time I had Klebers, but they weren't anything special. Ranking, from my personal experience: 1) XZX - bought from Costco in 2001 or so. Good tread wear, good wet road grip, quiet. ($200 for a set) 2) Jupiters - were on the car. good tread wear, decent wet road grip, quiet 3) Klebers - wore a bit faster, okay on wet roads, quiet. (they were on the car) 100) Tiger Paws - Don't don't don't buy them The suck really, really bad. Wander, wear poorly, squishy, no pretty. They were quiet, though. ($15ea, slightly used) S ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org