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Re: [T3] Too much advance


Thanks very much for the graph Dave- I really appreciate having some solid
specs to work with. I double checked and mine is the AJ dizzy. I hope you
don't mind but I put the graph up here:
www.mo-sys.com/1973_distrib_p2.gif

Comparing it to my graph I see a few significant differences.
My total mech advance is a bit higher but you're right that the springs will
surely have weakened over time. I expected to see a step in the mech graph
too as when I had my dizzy apart I saw that one
of the springs was a little longer than the other as if it were meant to
advance faster at first then catch up to the second spring and slow down a
bit. That kink happens at 1400 rpm on my dizzy at 16 deg adv, and 1500 rpm
on the specs at 12 deg adv ( a difference of 4 deg.).
Also I get 32 deg mech adv at 3500 whilst the specs say I should have 26 at
3500 (a difference of 6 deg). So maybe I should just retime at say 2 deg
advance at idle to take care of that offset? (instead of 7.5)

As for the vac advance there are more significant differences. The VW graph
shows that at 10cmHg I should be about half way through the advance at 6deg-
on my graph I'm only just starting at about 3 or 4 deg. Mine maxes out in
the 20-25 cmHg range where it should do at about 12cm Hg. I don't know the
accuracy of my vac gauge and will try to get a better one to re-do the test,
but this seems way out- actually the opposite of what I originally thought.
Maybe the diaphragm has stiffened up with age and is
causing that slower response. The part number for the vac can given on the
first page of that bulletin is 311 905 271 F. All I could find on mine was
the number 507 stamped on the arm so maybe its not the right can.

Mark Seaton,
'73 Fasty London



----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Hall" <dave@hallvw.clara.co.uk>


> That agrees with the charts on their way to Mark.  Centrifugal advance
quotes
> 24-28 crankshaft degrees at 3800 (in fact it levels out at 1900), and
vacuum
> advance is 8-12 degrees, giving a possible 40 (crankshaft) degrees of
advance,
> including the 7.5 degrees at idle rpm.  This is for the 311 905 205 AJ
single
> vacuum distributor for the 1973 twin carb engine.  The graphs of course
show
> distributor degrees.
>
> Max centrifugal is given as 14 distributor degrees (28 crankshaft) so
maybe your
> springs are a bit weaker than they should be - must be getting old.
>
> 850rpm is fine for manual.
>
> Dave.

> ------
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Seaton" <Markse@mo-sys.com>

>
> > Jim (and anyone else interested) here are my advance curves for the car
> > stationary:
> >
> > www.mo-sys.com/mark_eng_adv_curves.pdf


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