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if you look it is 4 lug all around and the front round turn signals are larger than the 61. just looking at the differance in color. looks more like a 69 than 61. Tony Dreier In a message dated 3/26/2004 8:46:00 PM Pacific Standard Time, russw@classicvw.org writes: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2468306168&categ ory=6060 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org