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On 18 Mar 2004 at 0:37, Dave Hall wrote: > Do I recall that some modern screens (even available on Beetle front > windshields) have a coating that's heated rather than separate wires? Could be > it's between the laminate layers I suppose. I once rode in a late 50s Bentley which had the wires actually buried in the middle of the glass. I don't know whether the glass was laminated or just fused around the wires. The wires were TINY, almost invisible, and there were hundreds of them about 1- 1.5mm apart oriented vertically across the entire rear window. I saw that in 74, and they worked then as well as they did when they were new. Since then, that kind of heated window has been my "gold standard." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org