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A HA! OK, Pat gets the gold star for dealing with half the problem of lowering, and I have actually mentioned a way of getting partial solution to this. Our suspensions dont have much travel at all, so any lowering reduces it to nill very quickly. You still have the geometry problem though, more precisely the lack of Caster angle. > > You will need to figure out some sort of new front rubber bump stop in the > front to maintain ride quality. Essentially you just pop the old one off and > find a much shorter replacement. If you want to go back to stock simply > remove your new bump stop, adjust the torsion bars back to their original > position and install the original rubber stop. > In my opinion KYB's are STIFF STIFF STIFF, I have them on the rear of my Opel and I really need to take them off. They will increase shock load on the beam innards and bring them to a quicker death. The First Type 3 beams used through 63 or 4 were wearing out at an unacceptable rate, the bushings were failing and the thrust rings, things were then beefed up a bit and all was well so long as you kept them well greased. But if stresses are upped again, these same problems start to creap back. Keith > I also used to use KYB high pressure gas shocks ( the white ones ) to help > keep it from bottoming out the suspension on big bumps. They are a little > stiffer than the regular ( silver ) KYB's and provide a little sportier feel > to the car. Not harsh or stiff at all to me, but I am a racer, so my opinion > my be a little different than most. I'd still suggest the white ones. Does > Bilstein or Koni make any shocks for T3's? These would be even better. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org