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Re: [T3] Nice Square on eBay


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On Jun 24, 2004, at 11:03 PM, Jens Vagelpohl wrote:

Except new cars heat up the cabin more quickly, have A/C, AM/FM radio
(minimum, many come w/cassette), have more hp, don't need 3K mile valve
adjustments, and parts are readily available.

The simple fact that their maintenance costs will be much higher simply because
I can't fix them myself makes modern cars of much less value to me.

There's one very interesting field of research: How would a new car, where the premise is that with warranties and free maintenance you pay less for upkeep, stack up against a well-kept old VW with a capable owner?


jens

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Looks like it is time to post my New car vs. Old car comparison again. I did this a few years ago when this subject came up. Here it is.....

					Ford 				VW
Item					Focus Wagon			Squareback
Year of Production		2000				1968
Ave. Household Income	$48,816(1)			$8,632
Price as Tested		$17,815				$2,771
Price/Income (%)		36%					32%
		
Engine				DOHC Inline 4			OHV Flat 4
   Displacement (liters)	1.988				1.584
   HP					130					65
   HP/liter				65					41
   Torque (ft-lb)			135 @ 4500rpm		87 @ 2800rpm
   Compression Ratio	9.6:1					7.7:1

Performance		
   0-60mph (sec)		9.3					20.8
   1/4 mile (sec)			16.9					22.3
   1/4 mile (mph)		81					62
   Top speed (mph)		105(2)				82

Safety		
   Seatbelts			3-point F/R			3-point F/lap R
					w/ F pretensioners		na
   Airbags				Driver/Pass/Side		na
   Brakes				ABS Disk F/Drum R		Disk F/ Drum R
					w/vacuum assist	

Comfort and Convenience		
   Steering				Power assisted R&P		Worm & Roller
   Windows			Power				Manual
   Door Locks			Remote Keyless Power	Manual key
   Mirrors				Power Dvr/Pass		Fixed Dvr
   Air Conditioning		as tested				na
   Sound system		AM/FM/CD			AM

Other		
   Transmission			4-spd Auto		3-spd Auto
   Fuel Economy(mpg)	26				24.5
   Range (mile)			315				260
   Seating Capacity		5				4
   Seat Width (in)		F 21.3 / R 49.3		F 19 / R 50.5
   Cargo Volume (ft3)	37.4				24.9
   Oil change interval	 (mi)	5,000			3,000
   1st Schedule Maint. (mi)100,000(3)		3000(4)
   Curb Weight (lbs) 		2740			2555
   Warranty			3 yrs/36,000miles	2 yrs/24,000miles

Notes:	(1) Extrapolated from 1987-1998 data
		(2) Electronically limited
		(3) Excluding oil changes
		(4) Valve adjustment



Later,
John Jaranson
'66 Square (Sophy)
'71 Fasty (Jane - darkside project in waiting)
various parts.....don't we all.
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http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jaransonT3/2004Invasion/
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jaransonT3/notavwclub/

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