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DavidM=> every time that I started climbing a hill my => speed dropped at least 10-15 mph. I'm with Greg: it's a lot to expect to get a ton of metal up a hill at even speed on 65hp. It's an economy car, and this is the sort of situation where it shows. Steven Ayres, Prescott AZ '66 KG1600 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org