AT trouble update (was Re: [T3] reuse AT pan gasket?)

[Greg Merritt <gregm@vwtype3.org>]

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	Looks like June is automatic transmission month on the Type 
III list! :-o

	The latest on my troubles below:


At 11:40 PM -0500 6/2/04, Jim Adney wrote:
> >  	Because I don't know how to check the vacuum modulator (Bentley
> Make sure the hose to it is not broken anywhere. If the VM doesn't 
> see manifold


	I took off the hose.  It looked fine, though a little stiff. 
I plugged one end and tried to blow into the other, and it didn't 
seem leaky.

	I had a length of cloth-covered f.i. fuel hose, so I cut off 
a piece and installed it on the car.  No change.


> vacuum it will try to hold the AT in 2nd. Make sure the diaphram 
> isn't leaking;
> if it's leaking the hose will be full of red ATF.


	There was only a little bit of motor-oil-looking wetness at 
the low end of the hose, definitely not full of red ATF.


> You can unscrew the VM (lots of ATF will spill out) and suck on it. You should


	Ok, this is on the to-do list.


> >  I found reference to somebody whose 1969 AT would not find third unless
> >  his hot dipstick measure was at top or slightly overfilled.  He had
>
> It's an easy conjecture to test.  ;-)


	Ok -- it's now definitely full to overfull, and it still has troubles.


> Low fluid level will certainly make it not want to shift, but what I'm more
> used to seeing is that they hesitate to move off from a standing start.


	Alright... a few times in the recent past, it did this, too 
-- and now it's doing it more.  Here's the latest after yesterday's 
test drive with the new vm hose & full-to-overfull ATF:


	o Sometimes, after decelerating to a stop, the transmission 
will come out of gear, and not engage in any forward or reverse 
selection until I rev up the engine a good deal.
	o It doesn't like to find third gear -- most likely way to 
get it into third is to speed up, then pop into N and let engine drop 
to idle, then ease the selector into 3.
	o When accelerating, it does not like to leave 1st to shift into 2nd.


	Bleh. :(

	Is the governor the most likely candidate to be giving all of 
these symptoms?

-Greg

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