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I suppose by now we are getting away from the purpose of this list, but I must add one last response. First, I did not consider the evil uses you mentioned for tinyurls, which could still be exploited at least once regardless of whether tinyurls.com prohibits, disables and reports their use. Good point. > <http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/rockinrichdotcom/detail?.tok=phRR1MBBQeij > czrL&.dir=/b0d2&.dnm=6e32.jpg&.src=ph> > works in my e-mail client. Second, I use Outlook Express, a fairly popular client, and the link you enclosed in < > was still broken. Maybe that has something to with the list's html-stripper. Dunno. Maybe posts originally written in plain text will go through okay. I'll try it here both ways: http//f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/rockinrichdotcom/detail?.tok=phRR1MBBQeijczr L&.dir=/b0d2&.dnm=6e32.jpg&.src=ph <http//f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/rockinrichdotcom/detail?.tok=phRR1MBBQeijcz rL&.dir=/b0d2&.dnm=6e32.jpg&.src=ph> Okay, that's enough from me. WOB tax paid on request. Wait, no WOB on this list. Maybe we should. Freddie Lochner 69 Notch (MT, non-FI) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org