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yeah the ball is going in because i can shift forward and back jut not side to side, i had my brother go under the car as i shifted to see it the rod was moving and it was. the thing is i dont have an OE shifter its always had the side button shifter. and i tried putting THAT one in and it still only shifter forward and back. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org