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Ya know, Ive noticed that the tan ones and to some extent the blue ones seemed to always hold up much better than the grey ones. Unfortunately, not many cars had other than grey... Id rescue a good rear mat no matter the color. Keith > FYI - I was a my local junkyard [Russ Recycling in Duarte, California] and > for anyone who may be in need of one of these mats in brown, there is a > squareback [Tan color, yr. 68 up] that was in excellent condition junked ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org