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On 26 Aug 2004 at 21:24, BOB2TYPE3S@aol.com wrote: > Yes, and gas shocks up front just KILL the smooth ride type3s are known for. > I had a set of them in the rear, and while they did raise the rear about 1 > inch (it helped the torsion bar sag), they made the car ride more stiffly than > the oil shocks I replaced them with. I went back to oil shocks in the rear, just > to help soften the ride. Much better, and my car is lower than Keith's. : ) Just an FYI: Gas shocks still use oil as the damping medium. They just have a gas pressurized reservoir that works to make sure that the damping chamber is always completely full of oil, even as some leaks out past the seals. These work until the reservoir is exhausted, and then you have a shock that has failed in a different way. I can't explain this any better without pictures, but if you really want to understand how they work you'll have to take one apart. Hint: take apart a failed (unpressurized) one. NEVER try to take apart a good one unless you already know what to expect. BTW, the ones I took apart were Bilsteins from a Mercedes. After taking them apart I read in the manual that rebuilt ones were available. It was interesting to realize that these could actually be taken completely apart AND put back together again. Of course on my first attempt, there were a couple of parts that I broke.... -- ******************************* Jim Adney, jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, Wisconsin, USA ******************************* ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~ Shameless link for search engines: http://listarchive.type3.org ~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~