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On 27 Apr 2004 at 9:49, Cybernotchback wrote: > Didn't Squares get stiffer torsion and sway bars? Yes, but those aren't in the pan itself. They are in the front axle beam and the rear subframe. > Other than that are there any other differences? Not sure. I'll check the microfilm tonight to see if there actually were any differences. > As a side question how does one tell the difference between the different > torsion bars. Is there a different paint code, is the diameter > different...or? The diameters are different. > I ask because I have a '68(?) replacement pan that was reclaimed from a > wreck, by a dealership. And at some time in it's life the chassis # has been > cut out. All I can tell is that it is a swing axle, (the sub frame could have > been changed), has two fuel lines, and it still has the weird '68-'69 master > cylinder. So my guess is '68, but which model? And no front beam Must be a '68, as you say. Most likely a fasty or squareback, but you might have to pull a torsion bar to be sure. -- Jim Adney jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, WI 53711-3054 USA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org