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Ive been part of the list for 3 or four years now. Its been 5 different email adresses and 3 houses. I have recently become involved in the forum more because I think it can cater more to the pre-66 crowd. I know alot of people on the list have these T3s but I think more of the banter on the list is geared tward the FI crowd. I am even furthor pigeon holed by owning STOCK pre-64 cars. Not but a handfull of those people. Why do you think I post more when people like Pat D and Everret start posting. So I will remain a list person to be a part of the comunity, but if Im joinsing for an early fix Ill probly get it on the forum. Jason Weigel "The 1500 Club" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org