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I want to say thanks for the help, a totally fabbed (1/8" angle iron-->proper dimensions-->Por-15--->into car) stop plate was put in yesterday. The dimensions from Bob were dead on, took a little trial and error to drill the hole and I still may need some support from below (thanks, Dave Hall), but all in all, it worked. Now, a new battery, set the rear window in and vroom! BTW, congrats to Jim A. for the new addition, my next car is going to be more like yours, in good shape and ready to roll. And Jim, that wasn't a grown man crying that you heard, it was the wind through the open door of the Notch or something like that, yeah, that's it. Thanks again to everyone, David Walters '73 1600 L Notchback S. FL, USA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org