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New model BMW 7 Series (in the UK) definately have LED rear lights I think the Mazda does too, in which case if it's done properly it must be legal (over here anyway). -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Baum [mailto:daniel@type34.info] Sent: 04 September 2003 20:26 To: type3@vwtype3.org Subject: Re: [T3] Clear Lens Source? Semi on topic- I've noticed that on some new cars - I think the Mazda 6 is an example but there are others - the brake lights look like they're made of circles of little red dots. Is this done with LEDs? I'd assumed it was a regular bulb but reflected in some fancy way. Daniel > I deleted the original message, but I was > think about LEDs last night. Something > to test first is the refraction properties > of the lens and how that will affect the > light output. > > The original lenses were designed for an > essentially single point source of light. > All of the facets of the lens are there > to direct the light in the right location > for visibility by the vehicle behind. > > A distributed source of light via LEDs > may get diffused by the facets and not > provide the brightness desired. > > This is something that must be tested, > not analyzed, for I don't think any of > us has the background, knowledge, nor > tools to determine this type of effect. > > Do one side only, install it and compare > both the standard and LED rear light on > the same vehicle in the same conditions > at the same time. Please post photos. > > Jeff '67 Sqbk > > -----Original Message----- > > Did you know that LEDs > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org > > >