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Re: [T3] Parts wanted


Jim, Dave, Steven, etc.

Trying to find the right parts for my car is enough to give a saint a
screaming fit.

The main problem is that the '69 had a different electrical system in some
ways to anything else; it seems to made up of bits and pieces taken from
whichever parts shelf happened to be closest. There also appears to be no
wiring diagram in existence that exactly fits a 1969 automatic Type 34, so I
have had to improvise a bit and hybridise two or three different wiring
diagrams. the miracle is that everything works extremely well.

> Both the 411C and the correct 311A part have the clip on top to mount in a
> punched hole in your sheet metal. They are the only 2 relays to my
knowledge
> that have this clip.

The Type 34 parts book gives 311 941 583 as the headlamp dimmer relay up to
1968, and 111 941 583 for 69 only. I am using a 411C relay that is cube
shaped with no clip on it. And yes, I can flash my lights when the headlamps
are off.

With the flasher relay the situation is even more confused. It gives both
211 953 183A and 211 953 215C for '69. The former is a large cylinder, the
latter a flat plastic box with four terminals.that screws to the bulkhead.
This is downright weird. My understanding of it is that the former is an
indicator relay only (2x21W), while the latter is can handle emergency
flashers(4X21W). This raises questions as to whether all 69 Type 34s had
emergency flashers - I understood that they did. I actually managed to buy
one of the cylindrical indicator relays very cheaply on eBay, and it seems
to cope with the emergency flashers with no problem (except that the
emergency flashers flash with a different rhythm to just the indicators), so
go figure. I also have a small modern Hella cube that works very well, but
looks, well,  . . . modern.

It is easy enough to find parts that work, but really difficult to get the
correct parts, because it is so difficult to know what the correct parts
are. As for the fog lights relay, I am using a generic standard relay that I
bought in a car parts store and it works fine, but I would like the proper
part. I am using exactly the same part for a horn relay, but I bought what
the was claimed on eBay to be a proper Karmann Ghia horn relay, so we'll see
when it arrives.

> I have a number of fuse box covers here. . . .

As for the fuse box cover, I don't really care what symbols it has on it, as
long as it fits.

> The bottle might be the same as used on 68-70 type 3s. Is it horizontal
with a
> neck in the middle and an extra stud to one side to mount hanging down
from a
> pair of holes in the bracket?

I have no inkling what the original washer bottle looked like. I only know
its part number. I am currently using one from a Beetle.

Thanks to all for your help,

Daniel




> DaveH=> A foglamp relay must be pretty standard ...
>
> I'm sure lots of relays could work, but few fit the Type 34 bracket
without
> more modification that most people would be up to doing.
>
> Steven Ayres, Prescott AZ
> '66 KG1600


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