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I'd be happy to let you go first so you can warn me about the pitfalls. ;-) well ! im not to sure when i get time to do this i know i need to but work has been getting in the way of play lately it could be awhile. mfg neil verdon. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org