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On 14 Nov 2003 at 12:12, Greg Merritt wrote: > Oh, I meant in particular the meaning of the expression "NOS". I > know what it means literally, but I tend to associate it also with the > sense of "period original". As time goes on, NOS can be literally NOS, > but not period original. I think we have to be careful to realize that NOS only means: New, Old Stock. If we try to tie it to some kind of time period authenticity then we get in trouble when enthusiasts of different cars try to talk to each other. We all have to understand that the simple fact that something is NOS doesn't mean that it is correct for my car. In fact it may not be correct for any car. If you want a new (not used) exact authentic period replacement part for your type 3, then it has to be a NOS, OE, VW type 3 part. For example, I have some NOS wiper blades that are made by Bosch. They are made to fit VW type 3s, and they are new (never used), but they are NOT OE because the type of cars they fit never came from the factory with Bosch blades, even though Bosch DID make other blades for other VWs. I think we've been thru this before, but here's how I see the definitions. NOS: New, old stock (means never used, been sitting on the shelf a long time) NIB: New, in box OE: Original Equipment (means the exact same part as originally sold with the car, or as a replacement for that part as sold by the auto maker.) OEM: Original Equipment Manufacturer (means a part made by the same company that made the original parts for the automaker.) Thus an OE part is also an OEM part, but an OEM part is not necessarily an OE part. Example: you buy an SWF flasher box from VW and it has the SWF number on it as well as the VW number. It's an OE part. If you buy the same part, but not thru VW then it will have only the SWF number on it. It's an OEM part. Likewise you can find type 3 fuel injectors with both the Bosch number and the VW number on them (OE) or you can find them with just the Bosch number on them (OEM.) -- ******************************* Jim Adney, jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, Wisconsin, USA ******************************* ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org