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I wonder if they were the 39507's, Mine dont seem too stiff, Whitney often gets the rejects, may have been part of your bad experience. Its easy to get a leak in the hosing if your not real anal about all the seals and such... I cover those tiny little lines with vacuum hose to give them some protection under there. Keith > Mine were Gabriels. I guess I should note, for the record, that I bought the > kit from... > J.C. Whitney > > Toby Erkson -- air_cooled_nut@pobox.com > '72 VW Squareback, '95 VW Jetta, '81 Gold Wing > http://www.icbm.org/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org