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Rear-ended = sucks. If a cell phone scared her, she must have shat herself when you came to the window... I think it's getting away from Type 3s but I don't think cell phones or seat belts or helmets or any of that crap should be illegal/required by law. Less laws, more common sense. Oh, and all this talk about Ypsilanti and no mention of this? http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/jeremy1.html For shame! -- Everett Barnes ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org