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Hey- I'm quite peeved when people badmouth ISP. Charles Navarro (the 'N' of LN) and I both are frequent customers of ISP West. Together, we've probably spent more money with them than at least 98% of the people on this forum. When Charles calls, they practically know his voice - he's called so much he hardly needs an introduction. They're good people. They have a brand new (last month or two) reproduction of outer window scrapers for $125 a pair. I'll be the first to say that they rock - I very apprehensively purchased a pair, and they worked like a charm. They also perform top notch restorations. By top notch, I mean flawless. And they charge appropriately. Maybe some don't want to pay $15,000 for a perfectly restored car, and that's fine, but many do, and people have no right to blast ISP for charging what they charge. That's what it costs to stay in business. They also have some very rare reproduction items that don't exist anywhere else and are made in small quantities (there aren't many people doing T3 restorations in the world!). Those who understand manufacturing know that small quantity and high quality don't spell cheap - so ISP charges what is appropriate. People have no right to bitch about it. Just my two cents :-). Hasta, Shad Laws LN Engineering - Aircooled Precision Performance http://www.lnengineering.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org