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go to http://www.mcmaster.com/ and search for *Adhesive-Back Damping Sheets*, under the heading *Adhesive-Back Damping Sheets* you want the polymeric mastic, good temp range and excellent sound dampening, and not near the price of dynamat crap. nathan http://home.att.net/~orntar/project/vwt3.html 70 fastback ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org