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RE: [T3] Water leaks, minor victory


Yes, it's a 69. I am skeptical also regarding replacement of the trunk seal;
however, it is leaking, the trunk also is getting wet. So, replacement is on
the menu anyhow. I still think the leak is probably coming from another
source, but playing detective I'll eliminate the things I know are possible
problems first. 

No, I wasn't referring to the cable release for the gas flap; there's a
wire, not cable, running through the passenger-side fender.

I appreciate your feedback, sorry for the double messages Jim.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Adney [mailto:jadney@vwtype3.org]
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 9:41 AM
To: type3@vwtype3.org
Subject: RE: [T3] Water leaks, minor victory


On 21 Mar 2003 at 6:41, Vlach, Joe -CKHS wrote:

> I got another chance to do investigating regarding why my socks are wet.
I used
> a hose and placed it around various spots (fresh air intake, windshield
seal,
> etc.) One thing I found interesting is that the water, believe it or not,
> appeared to accumulate behind the trunk seal then seep through were the
seal has
> deteriorated wick down the hinge and find its way through the firewall
into the
> cab and eventually onto the floor.  It sounds like a long shot, but I am
going
> to replace the trunk seal.

I haven't seen or heard of that route, but that doesn't mean it's not
possible. 
This is a 69, right? I'm skeptical, though.

> While I was playing water boy, I ran the hose full flow through the fresh
> air boxes...no leaks. I did find that the windshield wiper motor had water
> dripping from above. It's hard to tell, but I think the wiper fluid spray
> nozzle is allowing in a bit of water.

.Could be, but this would usually be minor.

> What did seem to help was to silicone the two holes in both sides of the
> fenders (antenna wire hole on driver's side, I don't know what the other
> wire is on the passenger side.

The antenna wire hole is a BIG problem if there is no grommet there, and it
is 
much too common for the radio installer to have saved himself 30 seconds by 
leaving out that grommet. This will only leak while driving, but it will
leak a 
LOT if you drive on really wet pavement, as wheel spray will really pump the

water up there.

The cable on the other side is the fuel flap release cable. That should have

its own seal from the factory. The fact that you didn't know what it was,
means 
that it is probably broken and you don't use it. So it may actually be cut
off 
on both ends meaning that it can leak thru the middle. I suggest that you 
remove the 2 screws, take all the remaining parts out, and either fix them
if 
possible, or cut them off cleanly and seal the center hole (weld, braze, 
solder, or silicone) and reinstall just the sealed plate with its OE gasket
and 
screws.

BTW, there's no reason to send your messages both to me and the list. I
don't 
need 2 copies.  ;-)

-- 
Jim Adney
jadney@vwtype3.org
Madison, WI 53711-3054
USA

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