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>>I feel *really* sorry for the poor volks who are in this hobby and their spouse isn't and doesn't try to understand or go along with it. me too. when i first was contemplateing the purchase of my first VW, i talked it over with my wife. she laughed at me and told me she wouldn't ride with me, and then proceeded to tell me all about how much i was going to be working on it, etc...all the cliche complaints from people who don't understand. i ended up buying our first VW soon after that, convinced that i had given it enough thought and research. she's been hooked ever since, now she drives a fastback. a full resto is likely to cost bucks, but allot of it you can learn to do yourself. some of it may be too bad to even bother with, it all depends on how much work you are willing to put in. if money is no option, go get as many free quotes as you can, but you'll never get the same satisfaction as doing it yourself, and i think most VW minded people want to do and learn as much themselves as they can, at least that's how i see it... good luck, and even if dad doesn't get it (mine doesn't either by the way) you will never be dissapointed. -matthew --> diversified vw enthusiest <-- ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org