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> by that time I was getting the usual "f"laps treatment for asking too many > q's and being too persistent. So I guess I'll stick to the golf ones and be I shopped for a spare set of pads to carry on the Parma Invasion trip. The guy behind the counter was friendly and patient, but kept bringing out the widest variety of VW-ish pads that were totally wrong. Vanagon (T3 type 2) pads, Golf pads, T2 type 2 pads, etc. etc... "this one?" "No, much too big." "This one?" "No, that's only got one guide hole." "This one?" (Argh, it's the one you just looked up under Vanagon!) At least we didn't even come close to getting nasty with one another, and finally I got the right set... -Greg ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org