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Greg Also check Les Schwab tires out, they may have a location near you. They sell high quality chains and cables. If you don't use them thy will refund your purchase 100% Here is their link http://www.lesschwab.com/tires.html Cheers Peter Legault 73 SB/AT/FI (The Putz) I came across these at Harbor Freight today. They're cable chains (instead of a pure chain?), maybe they'll work? http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=38986 ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org