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Emilio wrote: >When it rains, water gets in my 1970 notch just between the lower edge of >the door and the warm air outlet (both sides) Jim & Scott, I think what he means is that the water is building up on the door sill right above the outlet. If not that sure is A LOT of water in those doors. IF that is the case, what he is talking about happened to mine. Because I had later model door seals I had to cut some of it to get my door to close and now water gets past the seals and buildsup in that exact same spot, I think this is why the heater vents get all rusted right there. But anyhow, since the seal is water tight no water can drain once it gets in that area between the door sill and the door seal (boy that sounds weird!) and when it peaks over that "ridge", where the heater channel is stamped to the body it runs over and gets in the heater channels and carpet. SO what I did was cut about a 2 inch piece that is right where all that water builds up and it drains nicely. Just a temporary fix, but it works for now. Hope that helps Emilio. Dave in L.A. ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org